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  JKelly

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Posted: 2010-March-08 at 2:28pm | IP Logged Quote JKelly

Hello everyone,

There are so many amazing images on this site and I see that a lot of them (or at least parts) are made using 3d software. I've only used photoshop and have no experience with 3d programs. I have a couple of alien landscapes that I want to create and I love the way they look using 3d.

I have 3ds max but have never used it before and my question is this. How difficult of a learning curve is there for a program like this to create a landscape? I don't want anything small and intricite, I just need a large wide open landscape.

Should I try to use the 3d software or just stick with photoshop since I know it already? I'd like to expand my ability but I'm unsure of how long it will take to learn the program. Someone please just tell me it's not hard!!

Thanks in advance for any help.

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Posted: 2010-March-09 at 6:00am | IP Logged Quote Re(i)mbrandt

Hello, Justin,

try Terragen. If You choose the »Classic« version it’s free, and I guess this
classic version is much easier to learn for a beginner:

http://www.planetside.co.uk/

If You are using a Mac, You can also try Artmatic Voyager. It's also very
simple to use:

http://www.uisoftware.com/Voyager/VYGallery.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Cxjy13rDUQ


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Posted: 2010-March-09 at 12:55pm | IP Logged Quote JanL

Hi Justin, on 3DS Max.  It does have an extremely steep initial learning curve because it assumes that you have a basis in 3D (similar to taking Calculus).  You will need patience and learn step one thoroughly, then go to step 2 etc. Don’t skip anything because you think you know it.  Repeat until you know longer have to read the .PDF on that part.  After a few months, its learning curve gets “less steep”.  However it is still there and in full force.  This program, like Maya etc. are the industry standards for the graphics industry.  It is extremely powerful and is worth the time to learn it.

If you want further information, you can become a member of Renderosity, go to the 3DS Max forum and ask questions.  There are folks there that have been working Max for years.  Jan

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Posted: 2010-March-09 at 1:58pm | IP Logged Quote JKelly

Thanks so much to both of you. I REALLY want to learn 3ds max so I guess putting the time in to learn it now is the way to go. I might as well learn that program while I'm learning all this other art stuff too!!


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Posted: 2010-March-11 at 11:49am | IP Logged Quote Staplehead

you tube has lots of video tutorials and search google for tutorials for what programs you are using or are interested in, there's lots of other free version 3d tools too like blender or the learning version of maya etc


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Posted: 2010-March-16 at 5:15pm | IP Logged Quote regulus

Well there are several folks here who are pretty talented in 3dsmax, also the Renderosity community is good too

I have to disagree with Jan a little, 3dsmax has a reputation for being hard to learn, but its not that difficult to start out and make simple shapes, booleans, etc. To get really good at it, now that takes a while. I have been using it for around 8 years, and i consider myself fairly accomplished, but there is still loads of stuff i have no clue about.

BUT if you want to make landscapes, you definitely want Terragen 1 or 2 (version 1 (actually v.9something) is easier to learn, but cant handle objects - so no trees, rocks, etc) TG will create a landscape that is more realistic looking than Max, and it will do it in much less time and with less skills required.

Since you are interested in 3dsmax, here are some links i have found to be useful:

http://www.xenomorphic.co.uk/education.htm

http://www.neilblevins.com/cg_education/cg_education.htm

http://www.cgarena.com/freestuff/tutorials/tutorials.html

http://www.mrbluesummers.com/

Hope that helps, also you can shoot me a PM if you have questions. If you're really serious about learning 3dsmax, try to find a junior college near you that offers classes in Max

If you want to check out Terragen here's their homepage:

http://www.planetside.co.uk/

The Terragen forums here are also very helpful

http://forums.planetside.co.uk/

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Posted: 2010-March-16 at 6:02pm | IP Logged Quote JKelly

Thanks for the tips and the links Regulus. Funny you should mention finding a school. I just began attending the art institute and I have some 3d classes later on. I'm just ready to learn it all after being on this site.

Also, have you seen your own work? You're a little more than "accomplished"!!



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